Showing posts with label out-of-body experiences. Show all posts
Showing posts with label out-of-body experiences. Show all posts

Sunday, May 24, 2026

Survey Finds About 25% Claim an Out-of-Body Experience

How many people report having out-of-body experiences? It is known  that a fair fraction of those having near-death experiences report being outside of their physical body. But the fraction of the population that has had a near-death experience is probably much less than 25%. 

Below are some of the previous reports of the prevalence of out-of-body experiences. 

  1. A paper  "Out-of-Body Experiences" by Carlos S. Alvarado tells us on page 185 that according to 5 surveys of the general population, 10% of the population report out-of-body experiences.  The same page tells us that there were 49 studies involving students, which found that an average of 25% reported an out-of-body experience. The same page tells us that there were 10 studies involving members of parapsychology groups, which found that an average of 48% of such people reported an out-of-body experience. 
  2. We read on page 376 of the document here ("A NEW SURVEY OF PSYCHIC EXPERIENCES IN ICELAND") of a 2007 survey of 1026 people in Iceland, which found that 23% of the respondents claimed to have had an out-of-body experience.  
A new paper ("Personality Facets Systematically Relate to Nonordinary Experiences") gives us another figure regarding what percent of people report out-of-body experiences. The survey interviewed 424 people, and this was a "sample designed to approximate the general population." People were asked about 30 questions relating to non-ordinary experiences. 

One of the survey questions was: "I went through a situation where I was outside of my physical body and could perceive it as separate from myself." According to Figure 1 of the paper, the percentage who answered yes to this question was about 25%. The study attempts to detect "personality associations" with the answers given, but fails to find much of anything, reporting "mainly weak associations." 

Out-of-body experiences are one of the strongest examples of evidence standing in opposition to "brains make minds" claims. No one has stated any halfway persuasive explanation of why anyone would report being outside of his body, if the mind is a product of the brain. Attempts to explain such experiences as neural experiences are utterly lacking in credibility, and the papers making such attempts tend to be characterized by dishonesty and misrepresentation, as I document here and here. A very important type of out-of-body experience is sometimes called a veridical out-of-body experience. In such experiences a person who claimed to have floated out of his body is able to make observations that should have been impossible unless such a leaving of the body occurred. Many such cases are documented in my post here. 

We are currently in the  "anomaly accumulation" phase described by Thomas Kuhn in his book The Structure of Scientific Revolutions, the phase corresponding to item 3  in the diagram below. The main ideas of that book are summarized in the infographic below. 

Kuhn The Structure of Scientific Revolutions

Endless anomalies have accumulated which contradict the "brains make minds" claims of neuroscientists. Endless reports of paranormal phenomena such as near-death experiences, out-of-body experiences, clairvoyance and telepathy are only some of these anomalies.  A large fraction of the anomalies are cases of high mental function despite a very large loss of brain tissue, cases you can read about in the posts here

Such anomalies are the seeds of a new paradigm that may replace the old "brains makes minds" paradigm. The new paradigm may be some conceptual framework wise enough to recognize the necessity of recognizing that human minds and human memory are spirit realities or soul realities that can only be credibly explained by postulating transcendent causation, a reality enormously greater than mere brains.  Or, the new paradigm may be some "halfway house" with many of the same credibility problems as the "brains make minds" paradigm. When a failing old paradigm is replaced, it does not necessarily mean the new paradigm will be something very credible. The replacement paradigm may suffer from many of the problems of the old replaced paradigm. 

Tuesday, October 14, 2025

Every "Grade A" Report of an Out-of-Body Experience Cripples the Credibility of "Brains Make Minds" Claims

 Very many people are familiar with how people in recent decades have reported moving out of their bodies during near-death experiences.  But many people are not aware that the evidence for such out-of-body experiences goes way back before the publication of Raymond Moody's famous 1976 book Life After Life

An early account for an out-of-body experience can be found on page 447 of the Proceedings of the American Society for Psychical Research, dating from 1889. A  Mrs. N. J. Crans wrote the following to the distinguished researcher Richard Hodgson, telling of an out-of-body experience that seemed to have details corroborated by another person:

"After lying down to rest, I remember of feeling a drifting sensation, of seeming almost as if I was going out of the body. My eyes were closed ; soon I realized that I was, or seemed to be, going fast somewhere. All seemed dark to me ; suddenly I realized that I was in a room, then I saw Charley lying in a bed asleep; then I took a look at the furniture of the room, and distinctly saw every article of furniture in the room, even to a chair at the head of the bed, which had one of the pieces broken in the back ; and Charley's clothes lay on that chair, across the bottom of chair."

The full account includes a "veridical verification" element, as Charley later writes back to Mrs. Crans to say that the room looked exactly as described, and that he also saw someone named Allie at the time Mrs. Crans reported seeing her during the out-of-body experience. 

A few years later there was published an account you can read at the link here, which takes you to page 180 of Volume 8 of the Proceedings of the Society for Psychical Research, published in 1892. I have summarized this account of an out-of-body experience at the post here

A long account of out-of-body experiences was given in the 1929 book The Projection of the Astral Body by Sylvan J. Muldoon, which you can read here. Muldoon claims to have had many out-of-body experiences, but gives little in the way of corroborating evidence to back up his tales. 

In the 1960's and 1970's the scholar Robert Crookall PhD collected many accounts of out-of-body experiences.  His works on the topic include these:

  • The Supreme Adventure (1961), which you can read here
  • The Techniques of Astral Projection (1964), which you can read here.
  • More Astral Projections (1964), which you can read here
  • Out-of-the-Body Experiences (1970), which you can read here.

The More Astral Projections book gives about 160 cases of out-of-body experiences. Below are some examples, none of which involved people under anesthetics:

  • Case #161. A Mrs. J. Douglas Newton reported this: "My son, then 8 years of age, who had never heard of any¬ thing of this sort, had gone to bed one night and was lying reading. Suddenly he called rather urgently for me. I found him sitting up, rather scared. He said, 'Such a funny thing has happened. I was just lying reading when I felt I was rising into the air. I seemed to go up,near the ceiling. Then I looked down and could see myself lying in bed. I came slowly down.' "
  • Case #162. A B. Barrett reported this: "I was in perfect health when one night I found myself looking down at my earthly body and could not make out why it was not lying there dead as I thought."
  • Case #164. A Florence Roberts reported this: "I have had many out- of-the-body experiences when a child. ... I found myself above my physical body on the bed. "
  • Case 165. A Mrs. Lambert reported this: "Suddenly I shot out of my body. I lay about six feet up, looking down at myself."
  • Case 170. A Peter Urquhart stated this: "I went outside and found myself out of the body again. This time the sensation was like being in a balloon, attached by a cord somewhere in the region of the navel, like the umbilical cord."
  • Case 172. A Mrs. Argles reported this: "I found myself standing on the top of the steps, looking down on my body, lying on the floor. There was a cord connecting me to the body on the floor."
  • Case 173. Vera Oates stated this: "in the early hours of the morning I was suddenly wide awake, but, to my amazement, I was hovering between the railing and the bed. I looked down and saw myself on the bed."
  • Case 174. A Mrs. G. Teakel stated, "I have many times been outside my body and found it a lovely experience. It happens mostly around 3 a.m."
  • Case 175. A Mrs. Harris stated this: "I have left my body many times, walking round the room and looking at my body which is joined by a cord." Reports of such a cord connecting body to soul are not very rare.
  • Case 176. A Mr. Jebb stated, "I walked round the room twice when out of my body."
  • Case 183. A Mrs. M. F. Hemeon stated this: "Suddenly I felt myself  ‘swimming’ up out of my body...I was very startled, and by an effort of will... returned to my body."
  • Case 194. A woman states, " Suddenly I was floating with my nose almost touching the ceiling—I saw all the little imperfections in the distemper."
  • Case 201: An R. J. Carlson states, " I suddenly found myself out of and above myself—and yet I could either sense or see my body in bed."
  • Case 204: A Rebecca Schreiber stated "I suddenly felt I had left my body and was flying over the ocean until I came to the ship" (the Queen Mary) that her daughter was on. After asking her daughter what was wrong, and being told she was sea-sick, she told her daughter she would soon feel better. Her daughter later said she had an experience matching this visitation account, while on the ship, at about the same time. 
  • Case 236. Oscar Mockler stated, "The next thing I was aware of was standing on the floor of the cabin and looking down at my body lying asleep in the bunk."
  • Case 241.  Mrs. N. Matile stated this: "I found myself floating above my bed (about three feet above). I then quickly passed out of the window to the middle of the Mews where we were living. It was a starry night and it was a lovely feeling, floating in the air. "
  • Case 243. An M.E. Fearn stated this: "I felt myself arise and float off the bed and ... was at the foot of our bed, looking at myself asleep, facing my husband’s back. Then I floated towards the window."
  • Case 246.  A Mrs. Eyres stated, "I had a feeling that the real Me came out of my body through the head and I had the sensation of flying.” She claimed to have visited other countries in out-of-body experiences. 
  • Case 247. A Mrs. Watkin claimed to be visited by two figures who took on a visit to some spirit world. She states this: "I was brought back to my bedroom and there the three of us again stood looking at my lifeless-looking body. Suddenly I slipped easily and swiftly into it."   
  • Case 259. A Miss Douglas stated this: "“One night I awoke from sleep to find that I was in a horizontal position and suspended in mid-air. In this position I travelled at moderate speed through the bedroom windows out into the night. It was moonlight and I could see the houses very clearly. I felt thrilled as I travelled along ...It was so real. I drifted across the roof-tops and identified the neighbours’ gardens. ... On the return journey I seemed to be losing height but not speed. ... Finally, I arrived in the garden at home, still remaining in a horizontal position and suspended in mid-air."
  • Case 267. A Mr. Hall stated this: "Presently a most strange sensation passed through my body. Next I floated out through the winidow and across the town. I seemed to be several hundred feet above the ground."
  • Case 268. A C. H. Normanby stated, "About the age of 15 years I experienced passing out of my body on two occasions."
  • Case 269. A Mrs. Flint stated, "One afternoon, while resting on my bed, I felt myself floating, or rather suspended in the air, and I was actually looking down at my body on the bed."
  • Case 285. A Mrs. Mansergh stated this: "In February, 1939, my husband and I retired to bed as usual and I awoke to find myself standing by the side of the bed looking down on the sleeping forms of my husband and myself. I moved away from the bed to the window. As I moved, I noticed a glistening cord trailing from me." 
  • Case 309. A G. Bradley stated this: " I awoke about 7 a.m., and had the sensation of leaving the body. All I could see was the frame of myself left in the bed. I was floating around the room feeling peaceful. Suddenly I had the urge to get back into the shell of my body. What a struggle I had to do it!"
  • Case 310. A Mrs. Shakespeare stated this: "During the night I seemed to float down the ward and then returned and hovered over my bed, looking down at myself. I felt calm and peaceful.”
  • Case 313: A Mrs. Fyal stated this:  "Suddenly I felt myself leaving my body and looking around my bedroom... I saw my own body...Suddenly I found myself wandering again and floated to my body where, in the morning, I was astounded that I was in it."
  • Case 314: A Mrs. Langridge stated this: "I was outside my body, suspended in air, and looking down upon my body. Three or four people were reviving me. I was in a pleasant state of freedom and thought, ‘I wish these people would leave me alone!' "
  • Case 327. Dr G. B. Kirkland stated this: "To my surprise, I found myself looking at myself lying on the bed. The thought; just flashed through me that I didn't think much of me —in fact, I didn’t approve of me at all. Then I was hurried off at great speed. Have you ever looked through a very long tunnel and seen the tiny speck of light at the far end ? It seems an incredible distance off. Well, I found myself with others vaguely discernible hurrying along just such a tunnel or passage—smoky or cloudy, colourless, grey and very cold."
  • Case 329:  A Mrs. Florence Phillips stated this: " Suddenly I began to float away from my body and entered a grand garden. ... I seemed to float through the trees into a mist. Suddenly it seemed as if a gun went off  and I was back in bed."
  • Case 336: An F. W. Talbot stated this: "The next  moment I was suspended in mid-air, horizontal, and looking down at my body on the bed. I could see myself lying in bed quite clearly. I watched an attendant go to my body, lift my arm and plunge in a needle. This was extremely interesting; I was suspended over his head and my feeling was that of detached curiosity."
  • Case 337: A Mrs Rowbotham stated, "I remember being on the ceiling of the room looking down at the two doctors and two nurses—just floating and watching."
  • Case 339: A Kathleen Snowdon stated this: "Suddenly I realized a feeling of great excitement, wonder and delight surpassing anything I had ever experienced as I felt my body [‘double’] completely weightless and floating upwards in a golden glow towards a wonderful light around hazy welcoming figures and the whole air was filled with beautiful singing. I floated joyfully towards the light and then I heard my mother’s voice calling me. My whole being revolted against going back."
  • Case 343: An S. H. Kelly stated this: "As I lost consciousness, certain things in my life came in front of me. This was followed by a queer sound of music and the next thing I was suspended in mid-air and looking at them bringing my body out of the water and trying artificial respiration. I was very happy and free and wondered why they were doing that when I was here! At that moment I was transported to my mother’s room. I stood beside her as she was by the fire in an easy chair, trying to tell her I was all right and happy. Afterwards, I was back, looking at my body, when a brilliant light shone around me and a voice said, ‘It is not your time yet—you must go back. You have work to do!' "
  • Case 346:  A Mrs. Maries stated this: "Meanwhile I  had left my body and felt myself floating in what seemed like a dark tunnel (with a glimpse, at the end, of a lovely countryside). I had no pain, only a wonderful feeling of happiness. I felt I had somebody with me, but saw nobody. Only I heard a voice which said, ‘You must go back! That child needs you!’ I returned to my body and heard the doctor say, ‘No, by Jove, I can still feel her heart!’ "
At the end of his book More Astral Projections, Robert Crookall has some interesting summary statistics regarding how often such accounts had recurring characteristics. He used the term "the double" for a kind of spirit body that was a double of the human body. For what he called "single-type cases" the statistics included the following:
  • "The fact that the ‘double’ left the body chiefly via the head was noted in 29 natural and two enforced cases (i.e. 13.5 per cent and 5.4 per cent respectively)."
  • "The fact that, the newly-released ‘double’, often took up a horizontal position (usually not far above its physical counterpart), was noted in 50 natural and 7 enforced cases (i.e. 23.3 per cent and 18.9 per cent respectively)."
  • The percentage of people reporting a "silver cord" or "shining cord" connecting the human body and a spirit body (or something like that) was "43 (20.0 per cent) natural cases, 6 (16.2 per cent) enforced cases." 
For what Crookall called "double-type cases" the statistics included the following:
  • "People who saw the ‘dead’ (including ‘deliverers) comprised 57 natural and 6 enforced cases (26.6 per cent and 16.2 per cent respectively)."
  • "‘Level’ of consciousness: (a) ‘super-normal’ (with clairvoyance, telepathy, foreknowledge, etc.)—41 (19.0 per cent) natural cases and 2 (5.4 per cent) enforced cases; (b) normal—6 (2.8 per cent) natural cases and 1 (2.7 per cent) enforced case; (c) ‘sub-normal’—3 (1.4 per cent) natural and no enforced case." In the book people often report having a sharper or faster or clearer mind during an out-of-body experience. Such cases are consistent with the hypothesis that the brain is not the source of human thinking, but a kind of valve that restricts the human mind, allowing a mind to focus on mundane little tasks such as food gathering and wealth accumulation. 
We surely would not expect anything like such percentages if mere hallucination was involved.  In random hallucinations, you would expect matching specific details in fewer than 1 in 1000 cases, there being innumerable thousands or millions of ways in which a random hallucination might unfold. 

A typical observer position in out-of-body experiences

The source here discusses a variety of surveys taken to try to determine how common out-of-body experiences are.  It gives  numbers which suggest that out-of-body experiences occur to significant fractions of the human population, something like between 10% and 20%.

The 1973 book Glimpses of the Beyond: The Extraordinary Experiences of People Who Crossed the Brinks of Death and Returned by Jean-Baptiste Delacour preceded the much more famous Life After Life book by Raymond Moody. (Reading the book may require setting up a login with archive.org and doing an online "borrow" of the book.) Some of the accounts in Delacour's book sound like the well-known type of near-death experiences Moody described. For example, on page 14 Daniel Gelin (a well-known French actor) states that when being treated in a hospital "suddenly, I found myself floating through the room." On the next page, Gelin describes encountering his deceased mother and father, who led him to a "rose-colored world, a sort of fairy garden" where he encountered his deceased son. But then an "inexorable force" caused him to return to the hospital room.  

On page 20 of the same book, we hear the account of Betty Patterson, who said this:

"At first I felt as if my spirit, my self, was separating from 
the bulk of my body and floating up to the ceiling of the room.
From up there I could look down at my body on the operating table. Then this scene vanished from my field of view, and
suddenly I was surrounded by gentle light and soft music. 
I was overcome by a feeling of deep content that I had
never felt in life. This sensation overpowered me in such a 
way that I no longer felt any desire for earhly life. I tried
to move in the direction the sounds were coming from, 
but something forcibly prevented me. Apparently, the time had not come for the final separation from the body."

On page 20 of the book, we also read of a James Lorne who was clinically dead for five minutes after suffering a heart attack. Lorne states this:

"I felt myself floating in the air and could clearly see my body lying down there. I landed in a long corridor filled with soft twilight. At the end a bright light was shining.  I could also hear voices coming from there." 

Lorne describes encountering some "splendid garden" with people in it, but when he tried to move closer, the scene always receded. 

On page 37 we read of a Mrs. Francis Leslie who had her heart revived after it had stopped for quite a while, for so long that she was declared dead. She said that she found herself mysteriously "floating in a long shaft" that she also described as a "tunnel." She heard a voice calling from far away in the tunnel, which she identified as someone who had died.  She then felt herself back in the hospital. After describing her experience, she died about 12 hours later. 

On page 40 a doctor says that heart patients "again and again have the sensation of being disembodied" and that "in a sense they feel they are floating above themselves," and that they see their body "lying below them on the ground." 

What is interesting about the accounts I just gave from the 1973 Delacour book is that at the time it was published, almost no one except scholars of the paranormal had heard about out-of-body experiences or near-death experiences, so such accounts cannot be dismissed as some kind of conformity to a widely-known pattern. Several years after Delacour's book (after the publication of Moody's Life After Life) a host of people began reporting out-of-body experiences, and such reports have continued at a constant pace. 

In a book by Colin Wilson, we read the following:

"In the 1960s the psychologist Charles Tart studied a borderline schizophrenic girl whom he called Miss Z., who told him that she had been leaving her body ever since childhood. To test whether these experiences were dreams Tart told her to try an experiment: she was to write the numbers one to ten on several slips of paper, scramble them up, then choose one at random when her light was out and place it on the bedside table. If she had an out-of- the-body experience in the night she had to try to read the number (she claimed to be able to see in the dark during her OBEs). She tried this several times and found she always got the number right. So Tart decided to test her himself. The girl was wired up to machines in his laboratory and asked to try and read a five-digit number which Tart had placed on a high shelf in the room next door. Miss Z. reported correcdy that the number was 25132."

Wilson tells us the following: 

"Many thousands of examples of out-of-the-body experiences have been reported in the literature of the paranormal: one eminent researcher, Robert Crookall, devoted nine volumes to such cases. Another, the South African investigator J. C. Poynton, collected 122 cases as a result of a single questionnaire published in a newspaper. A similar appeal by the English researcher Celia Green brought 326 cases. One survey even produced the incredible statistic that one in ten persons have had an out-of-the-body experience."

Out-of-body experiences are very powerful evidence against the central dogmas of modern neuroscientists, the dogma that the brain is the cause of human mental phenomena such as consciousness, self-hood and thinking,  and the dogma that the brain is the storage place of memories.  There are a host of good reasons for rejecting such claims, such as the fact that brains are too slow and noisy to account for instant very accurate human recall, the fact that many people think very well and remember very well after half or most of their brain has been destroyed by disease or surgery (as discussed here and here), the fact that the brain has nothing like what it would need to have to instantly store and instantly retrieve memories, and the fact that the proteins that make up brains have average lifetimes of less than two weeks (1000 times shorter than the longest length of time humans can remember things).  Out-of-body experiences are just exactly what we would expect to have happening if mind and memory are not brain effects, but something like soul effects.  Nature never did anything to tell humans that brains make minds and that brains store memories. Neuroscientists merely jumped to such conclusions without any adequate warrant, ignoring many a reason for rejecting such conclusions. 

Attempts to explain away such very common out-of-body experiences as hallucinations make no sense at all. A hallucination is by definition when you see something that is not really there. Someone reporting seeing his body from about two meters above it is not having a hallucination, because what he sees (his body) is actually there. 


Moreover, such experiences show strongly repeating very distinctive features (as discussed above), which we would not see in hallucinations (which would merely have random content).  There are a billion-and-one things someone might hallucinate about, so given so many possibilities for hallucination content and the rarity of visual hallucinations, we would expect that only once in a blue moon would any person on Earth have a hallucination about floating above his body.  Instead, a significant fraction of the human population seems to report out-of-body experiences (about 10% to 20% according to the surveys listed here).  There are many veridical out-of-body-experiences in which someone reports seeing something he should not have been able to see if he was hallucinating.  Such experiences powerfully refute claims that out-of-body experiences are mere hallucinations.  For example, in the case described here, #41, a person (S. H. Beard) tried to deliberately produce an out-of-body experience targeting the location of a second person unaware of such an attempt, and the second person reported seeing an apparition of that person at the same time, with a third person living with the second person also reporting the sight of such an apparition at that time. 

In the paper The Phenomenology of Near-Death Experiences by Bruce Greyson and Ian Stevenson, which examined in depth 78 near-death experiences, we have this very interesting quote (which may corroborate some of what Crookall suggests about a "second body" linked to the normal body by something perhaps cord-like):

"The impression of having some sort of nonphysical body separate from the physical body was reported by 58% of our respondents (77% of those reporting out-of-the-body experiences). The nonphysical body was most commonly described as lighter in weight than the respondent’s physical body (74%) but the same size (68%) and the same age (84%). The nonphysical body was described as showing some indication of 'life'(e.g., pulse, breath) by 67% of those reporting a non-physical body and as ‘linked’ ‘to the physical body insome way by 28%. Twenty percent of those reporting a nonphysical body claimed that sensonimotor or structural defects present in their physical body (e.g.,partial deafness, missing limbs) were absent in the nonphysical body; 3% reported such defects to be present in the nonphysical body." 

Published reports of out-of-body experiences vary in quality.  If a report is merely a recollection of what someone saw very long ago, and no earlier report was published, that does not qualify as a "Grade A" report of an out-of-body experience. If someone writes what he claims was told him by someone else,  without quoting word-for-word exactly what the person said, that does not qualify as a "Grade A" report of an out-of-body experience.   If someone reports something he saw after using hallucinatory drugs, that is  not a "Grade A"  report of an out-of-body experience.  If someone merely reports a kind of "up in the clouds" feeling or "floating sky-high" feeling without observing his body from outside of the body, that is  not a "Grade A" report of an out-of-body experience.  Accounts that quote from an unnamed witness do not qualify as a "Grade A" report  unless they are quotes taken verbatim from that witness  by a named reliable source. 

On the page here we have some accounts of out-of-body experiences published in the New York Times. They are only "Grade B" accounts because the witnesses are recalling what happened very long ago. Jeff Sears says that decades ago during surgery, "I found myself hovering above myself on the hospital table."  Marion Novack says that decades ago "I was floating above my body in the emergency room, watching the physicians and staff trying to save me."

A "Grade A" report of an out-of-body experience occurs when a normal credible person without a psychiatric diagnosis describes in writing (or in taped speech) what he saw very recently, while describing viewing his body while totally apart from his body. There are many such reports in the literature. There are also many reports that we can classify as "Grade A+" reports. The "Grade A+" reports are those which meet the requirements of a "Grade A" report, but also involve a person reporting seeing something that he should have been unable to see if he was still in his body, with such an observation being later verified as correct.  Many such "Grade A+" reports are discussed in my post here. 

 Each and every such Grade A or Grade A+ report of an out-of-body experience is enough to cripple the credibility of claims that the brain is the source  of the human mind. No such reports should ever occur if your mind is produced by your brain.  

A system for rating the reliability of unexpected paranormal reports is discussed in my post here. I proposed a system in which up to six stars could be awarded: 

  • Add 1 star if we have first-hand testimony or testimony exactly quoting what a witness said he saw.
  • Add 1 star if we have a named and reliable witness.
  • Add 1 star if a written dated eyewitness report was made very soon after the observation occurred, with the report being quoted, or the account being such a report.
  • Add 1 star if the observation report was published very soon after the observation occurred.
  • Add 1 star if the observation report was made by multiple witnesses who agree with each other.
  • Add 1 star if the observation report is backed up by physical evidence such as a photo or video.

For an out-of-body experience, the last two items in the bullet list above are inapplicable. For an out-of-body experiences we might adapt the system to be like this:

  • Add 1 star if we have first-hand testimony or testimony exactly quoting what a witness said he saw, in which he or she reports being outside of his body.
  • Add 1 star if we have a named and reliable witness.
  • Add 1 star if a written dated eyewitness report was made very soon after the observation occurred, with the report being quoted, or the account being such a report.
  • Add 1 star if the observation report was published very soon after the observation occurred.
  • Add 1 star if we have clear evidence the witness underwent a life-threatening experience, of a type (such as cardiac arrest) that is often associated with out-of-body experiences. 
  • Add 1 star if there is verification of something the witness claimed to have seen while out of the body, something he should have been unable to observe by regular means.
We might classify testimony scoring 5 or 6 stars under such a system as a "Grade A" report of an out-of-body experience.

If the topic of this post interested you, check out my free 160-page book "Near-Death Experiences and Out-of-Body Experiences," now available on www.archive.org using the link here. Using the native www.archive.org file viewer in single-page mode,  which you can get by clicking the [] icon at the bottom of the file viewer, you can conveniently read the whole book by finger swiping. Scholars who are interested in following the links may prefer to download the book as a PDF file, which will allow opening links by right-clicking on a link. 

Tuesday, July 15, 2025

Physically Unrealistic NEPTUNE "Model" of Near-Death Experiences Is a Misleading Mishmash

I was previously asked by some of my readers for comments on the paper "A Neuroscientific Model of Near-Death Experiences." At that time I did not critique the paper because it was  behind a paywall, and the abstract gave no reason for suspecting that the paper was worth a 20 dollar payment.  The paper is now publicly available at the link here (alternate link here). We have a paper that claims to have a "model" of near-death experiences, but actually offers no physically realistic model of any such thing. What we get is a jargon-filled jumble that does nothing to explain any of the main features of near-death experiences. The abstract gives a clue of the hodgepodge farrago that the paper is, by saying that it will offer "a model for NDEs that encompasses a cascade of concomitant psychological and neurophysiological processes within an evolutionary framework." So the strategy is apparently something like: let's sprinkle some psychology talk with some brain chemistry talk and some Darwinist evolutionary biology talk, and see whether that adds up to an explanation for near-death experiences.  The result resembles someone wildly firing shots in all different directions. 

The co-authors start out by giving us a three-paragraph discussion entitled "Cerebral blood flow, blood gases and neuronal function." Here is the first paragraph:

"Just before and during cardiopulmonary arrest, cerebral blood flow is compromised, resulting in a swift decline in oxygen and glucose supplies and an accumulation of CO2. Oxygen deprivation (hypoxia) impairs cellular respiration and ATP production, thereby disrupting energy-dependent cellular processes. This deprivation also affects the function of enzymes such as monoamine oxidase (MAO), which is responsible for degrading monoamine neurotransmitters, including serotonin, dopamine, noradrenaline and histamine. In addition, elevated CO2 levels (hypercapnia) contribute to acid–base imbalance. CO2 combines with water to form carbonic acid (H2CO3), which dissociates into H+ and HCO3 – ions. During hypercapnia, the buffering capacity of HCO3 – is exceeded by an overabundance of H+ , leading to decreased pH43, disrupted ATP production, and cerebral acidosis. Reductions in brain pH activate acid-sensing ion channels (ASICs), leading to an influx of Na+ ions, which further contributes to neuronal depolarization and the triggering of action potentials."

We have lots of mention of chemistry details, a jargon-filled discussion that is meant to impress us. But it should not impress us in the least, because it has no relevance to explaining near-death experiences. There is one main relevant neuroscience-related fact here (which the paper fails to ever mention). It is that very soon after the heart stops beating during cardiac arrest, the brain shuts down electrically. This is shown in EEG readings, which show the brain flatlining within 10 to 20 seconds after cardiac arrest.  When this flatlining of brain signals occurs, the normal wavy appearance of brain waves become flat lines. 

The term "isoelectric" or iso-electric in reference to brain waves means a flat-lining equivalent to no electrical activity in the brain, as measured by EEG readings. The paper here states, "Within 10 to 40 seconds after circulatory arrest the EEG becomes iso-electric." Figure 1 of the paper here says that such an isoelectric flat-lining occurred within 26 seconds after the start of ventricular fibrillation, the "V-fib" that is a common cause of sudden cardiac death, with "cortical activity absent." Also referring to a flat-lining of brain waves meaning a stopping of brain electrical activity, another scientific paper says, "several studies have shown that EEG becomes isoelectric within 15 s [seconds] after ischemia [heart stopping] without a significant decrease in ATP level (Naritomi et al., 1988; Alger et al., 1989)."  Another paper tells us this about brain waves and infarction (obstruction of blood flow), using CBF to mean cerebral blood flow, and the phrase "the EEG becomes isoelectric" to mean a flat-lining of brain electrical signals:

"When normal CBF declines, the EEG first loses the higher frequencies (alpha and beta bands), while the lower frequencies (delta and theta bands) gradually increase. When the CBF decreases further towards an infarction threshold, the EEG becomes isoelectric." 

Similarly, another paper refers to blood pressure, and tells us, "When flow is below 20 mL/100 g/min (60% below normal), EEG becomes isoelectric." meaning that brain electrical activity flat-lines. The 85-page "Cerebral Protection" document here states, "During cardiac arrest, the EEG becomes isoelectric within 20-30 sec and this persists for several minutes after resuscitation." Another scientific paper states this: 

"Of importance, during cardiac arrest, chest compliance is not confounded by muscle activity. The EEG becomes isoelectric within 15 to 20 seconds, and the patient becomes flaccid (Clark, 1992; Bang, 2003)."

For example, below is part of Figure S1A from the supplemental information of a scientific paper. We see the brain waves of a dying Patient One in blue (EEG readings), and we see in the last row a red ECG reading that is a  measure of heart activity.  

EEG of dying patient


The text below this visual tells us this about these stages that are labeled S5, S6, S7, S8, S9 and S10, using the term "bradycardia" which means lower-than-normal heart rate: 

"The pacemaker was automatically turned off (S5) and restarted from S6. S7 starts when rapid heartrate drop was seen which ended when pacemaker was turned off by clinical staff. S8 denotes the bradycardia period where RR interval (RRI) is longer than 5s. In S9, RRI is below 5s (partial heartrate recovery). S10 saw the reappearance of the P-waves and further recovery of heartrate. S11 ends at the last recorded heartbeat with periodical PAC-like ECG pattern."

The evidence in this case is clear: there was virtually no brain activity at stage S10 (when there was "further recovery of heartrate") and no brain activity at all at stage S11, which ended with the "last recorded heartbeat." The lack of brain activity is shown in the blue flat lines we see under S10 and S11. 

The fact of the brain flatlining and becoming isoelectric within about 10 to 20 seconds of cardiac arrest is an all-important fact in any neuroscience attempt to explain near-death experiences. It means that all such attempts are doomed to failure.  There can be no brain explanation of some mental phenomenon if that phenomenon occurs when the brain is electrically inactive. Similarly, you can have no explanation of your computer performing some task if the task occurred while your computer was unplugged and your computer has no batteries. 

Does the paper "A Neuroscientific Model of Near-Death Experiences" ever tell us this all-important fact that brains become isoelectric (electrically inactive) within a few seconds after cardiac arrest? No, it does not. The paper does not use the word "isoelectric" and does not use the word "flatline." The paper makes no reference to EEG readings, and no reference to brain waves. The text of the paper fails to use the term "EEG" and fails to use the term "brain wave." So the paper's pretensions to be describing what goes on in a brain during cardiac arrest is a sham. The authors have ignored the most fundamental reality of what goes on in a brain during cardiac arrest. 

The vast majority of the paper "A Neuroscientific Model of Near-Death Experiences" is a discussion of brain chemicals. Before reviewing this discussion I can give some background information on that topic. The main chemicals the paper discusses are serotonin, glutamate, noradrenaline, acetylcholine, endorphins, dopamine and GABA. These chemicals are found in extremely tiny amounts such as 1 part per million in brain fluid.  Prior to the past few years, there did not exist any reliable method for accurately measuring increases in such chemicals occurring over a very short time span such as the few minutes following the beginning of cardiac arrest. There existed a technique called microdialysis, which involved inserting a needle or tube into the brain, and taking fluid from some tiny part of it. Such a technique was not suitable for reliably tracking changes in brain chemicals over a short period. Someone might try to insert such microdialysis needles three times in quick succession over a period such as ten minutes, and then analyze the extracted fluid. But any differences reported would be more likely to be due to region-to-region variations in such chemicals, or uncertainties in the attempted measurements themselves, rather than an actual increase over the short time span. The identification of chemicals existing in only extremely tiny trace amounts is an affair involving large chances for error, with uncertainties often spanning several orders of magnitude, between 10 and 1000 times. For example, the paper here lists studies that attempted to measure one brain chemical by using microdialysis, and the reported results vary between 1 nanomole and 2000 nanomoles. 

Whenever we hear any claims that some brain chemical was found to increase during ischemia (the blockage of blood to the brain), we should always ask questions such as these:

(1) How many studies reported such an effect, and were the study group sizes used sufficient to produce a high statistical power?

(2) What fraction of the brain was checked? Was it only a hundredth of the brain, such as only the striatum or the hippocampus?

(3) What was the time scale? Was it over hours or days (irrelevant for discussions of near-death experiences), or was it over some very short time scale that might be relevant to explaining something going during cardiac arrest or near-death experiences?

Almost always the answers to these questions will deflate any claims to have found a relevant surge in brain chemicals, showing that the claims are not well founded and not well replicated. 

Here are some of the sections in the paper "A Neuroscientific Model of Near-Death Experiences":

  • The section entitled "the serotonergic system." We have eight paragraphs describing the role of serotonin in the brain. None of the discussion has any relevance to explaining any of the more interesting features of near-death experiences. Serotonin does not produce hallucinations. The paper "Serotonin and Human Cognitive Performance" discusses the results of "experimental studies involving healthy human volunteers," but makes no mention of hallucinations in these volunteers who had their serotonin levels artificially increased. Millions of people in the US take SSRI drugs that are specifically designed to increase serotonin levels; but such drugs do not produce hallucinations. The paper here (discussed in the appendix) involved experiments that increased by very many times (between 100 times and 1000 times, in other words 10000% to 100000%)  the serotonin levels in volunteers, by infusions of serotonin. No hallucinations were reported.  There is no robust evidence that serotonin surges in humans during near-death experiences or during cardiac arrest. The  paper "A Neuroscientific Model of Near-Death Experiences" makes the claim that "In rats undergoing asphyxia, a dramatic initial surge in brain serotonin levels was observed — up to 100–200 times higher than baseline." This is a reference to a 2015 paper that did not reliably observe any such thing, because at the time there was no reliable technology for measuring short-term spikes in serotonin levels, and the study group size was way too small (only 7 rats) for a reliable result to be claimed. The paper used a microdialysis and liquid chromatography-mass spectrometry (LC-MS) method that at the time was not very reliable because of reasons discussed in the appendix of this post. After giving us detail after detail about serotonin, none of which have any relevance to explaining near-death experiences, the section drifts off to a discussion of other topics such as DMT trips and speculations about evolution. The section has no relevance to explaining near-death experiences. A 2025 paper highlighting the unreliability of serotonin measurements is entitled "The Continued Mismeasurement of Plasma Serotonin: A Systematic Review." It states this: " The review covered the period from 2010 to July 2024 and is a follow-up of a similar review published in 2011 which found that nearly all published reports of PPP 5-HT [serotonin] were clearly and markedly erroneously high. This problem has persisted unabated with nearly all retrieved 47 reports from the past 14 years also apparently being erroneously high." 
  • The section entitled "the glutamatergic system." We have five paragraphs discussing the role of the neurotransmitter glutamate in the brain. None of it has any relevance to explaining near-death experiences. Senselessly the authors try to use this discussion as a launchpad for discussing ketamine, a hallucinogenic drug. This goes nowhere, because the authors confess that while someone "hypothesized that in life-threatening situations, an endogenous ketamine-like neurotoxin might be released," the fact is that "no empirical evidence has been found to support the existence of such a molecule." The authors attempt to insinuate that during cardiac arrest there may be a big increase in glutamate. There is no robust  evidence that this is true, and if it were true, it would be irrelevant, because glutamate is not any type of hallucinogen.  As I discuss in my post "The Groundless Myth That 'Floods'' or 'Surges' Help Explain Near-Death Experiences," there is no evidence that any type of relevant brain chemical surges during cardiac arrest or near-death experiences. Claims of such a surge is a deceptive element repeated again and again in articles or papers attempting to explain near-death experiences. There are two very strong reasons why such claims must be wrong or irrelevant. The first fact is that we know that neurotransmitters are synthesized at a very slow rate, making unbelievable all claims of a sudden surge in neurotransmitters at death. The second fact (supremely relevant but senselessly ignored by the co-authors of the paper "A Neuroscientific Model of Near-Death Experiences") is that brains become isoelectric (i.e. they flat-line) within 10 to 20 seconds of cardiac arrest, making all claims about neurotransmitter increases at such a time irrelevant or unbelievable. 
  • The section entitled "the noradrenergic system."  We have three paragraphs giving an irrelevant discussion of a chemical called noradrenaline. The attempt to link this discussion to near-death experiences is feeble and laughable. We have the claim that "noradrenaline might also aid memory consolidation though its effect on the amygdala" and that "the ability of humans to recall vivid memories even on the verge of death could be explained by high  noradrenaline levels during asphyxia."  The statements are nonsensical. There is no evidence that memory recall is increased when people have higher levels of noradrenaline. The relevant fact here (completely ignored by the authors)  is that during cardiac arrest brain waves very quickly become isoelectric, and that brains shut down electrically and flatline, something that (under assumptions brains store memories) should completely prevent the formation of any new memories. Instead of there being a neuroscience reason why someone might form vivid memories during cardiac arrest, there is the strongest neuroscience reason why such a thing should be impossible under the assumptions of neuroscientists. 
  • The section entitled "the cholinergic system."  We have two paragraphs discussing the neurotransmitter acetylcholine. We have the unfounded claim that acetylcholine enhances memory formation. Neuroscientists do not have any credible theory of memory formation, and there is no strong evidence that increased acetylcholine levels cause higher levels of memory formation.  The attempt in the paper to link acetylcholine to near-death experiences is a feeble one: merely something like insinuating that acetylcholine helps memory, and that acetylcholine might help someone remember a near-death experience.  The authors continue to be utterly oblivious to the most relevant fact here: that when a brain is isoelectric, in an EEG-flatline state and not generating any brain waves, the formation of memories should be impossible under "brains store memories" assumptions. 
  • The section entitled "the endorphinergic system."  We have three paragraphs discussing endorphins, a type of brain chemical widely discussed as a "feel good" kind of chemical.  We have the incorrect claim that a study showed that endorphins increase in dogs undergoing sudden cardiac death. The reference is to a 1995 paper that should never be cited as credible evidence for such a claim.  In 1995 there did not exist any reliable technology for measuring very short-term spikes in brain chemicals in animals such as dogs. The paper does not mention any study group size, and we may assume that it was one of innumerable neuroscience experiments using a study group size way-too-small for a reliable result to be claimed. Here we must remember that if people had reliable evidence for the claim that endorphins increase during sudden cardiac death, they would be citing papers of recent decades, not papers from 30 years ago. The attempt to link endorphins to near-death experiences is a feeble one: merely the suggestion that endorphins might help explain mood elevation. 
  • The section entitled "the dopaminergic system."  The brain chemical discussed is dopamine. We again have a dubious claim that such a chemical was found to have increased in dying rats. The claim is based on the 2015 paper here, the paper "Asphyxia-activated corticocardiac signaling accelerates onset of cardiac arrest."  At that time there did not exist any reliable methods for making real-time in vivo measurements of brain chemicals over short periods of time such as ten minutes. The technique used by the paper (microdialysis and liquid chromatography-mass spectrometry or LC-MS) was not suitable for accurately measuring real-time changes in neurotransmitters over a tiny time scale such as 10 minutes. (See the appendix for more on the problems with LC-MS.) The paper cited was not a robust science paper because of its use of way-too-small study group sizes such as only 7 rodents. One of the co-authors of the "A Neuroscientific Model of Near-Death Experiences" paper (Martial) makes a misstatement about a previous paper of hers, claiming, "Martial et al. found that coma survivors who reported NDEs exhibited suboptimal  source monitoring and an increased tendency to illusory recollection,  compared with those without NDEs." To the contrary, the paper in question (doing some memory test on 20 subjects reporting a near-death experience and 20 who did not) reported "we obtained equivalent proportions of correct and false recall performance in both groups." The section attempts to insinuate that dopamine causes hallucinations. There is no strong evidence that dopamine causes visual hallucinations. The paper "Effects of Dopamine in Man" reports on the effects of 13 subjects who were given a 1% infusion of dopamine, causing dopamine levels many times higher than naturally occur. The paper makes no mention of any hallucinatory effects or any mental effects. A similar experimental result (reporting no hallucinations) is reported in the paper here, which tested artificially produced dopamine spikes as high as 1000 times higher than normal. Attempts to claim dopamine levels have an association with the merely auditory hallucinations of schizophrenia are advanced by pharmaceutical companies and neuroscientists financially entangled with them, who are interested in selling pills that supposedly affect dopamine levels. The claim is irrelevant, because of the lack of robust evidence that dopamine sharply increases in humans during sudden cardiac arrest or near-death experiences (outside of perhaps one or two small areas in the middle of the brain like the striatum), the implausibility of the claim that it could very quickly increase during such rapid events (given the very slow production rate of all neurotransmitters), the fact that brains that quickly flatline a few seconds after cardiac arrest cannot be hallucinating brains, and the fact that very strong dopamine infusions in humans do not produce hallucinations. No one has ever caused someone to have a visual hallucination by giving him an injection or infusion of dopamine.  
  • The section entitled "the gabaergic system."  We have two paragraphs discussing GABA, neither of which discuss any convincing link between such a chemical and near-death experiences. 
We then have a huge misstatement in the "A Neuroscientific Model of Near-Death Experiences" paper, this claim: "Anecdotal accounts of perceptions during NDEs are available, but no empirical research to date has used sufficiently rigorous methodology to objectively verify whether these perceptions corresponded to actual external stimuli."  This is not true at all. Researchers have very carefully attempted to discover whether reports of out-of-body experiences reported observations that an immobile observer should have been unable to make, and whether such observations could be verified. Very many times such observations were verified as correct. You can read very many examples in my post here. Because all such cases are totally unaccountable under a neuroscientific account of near-death experiences, I can understand why the paper authors would want to misinform us about the existence of such cases. 

We then have yet another example in the paper of a citation of a neuroscience paper that is almost certainly junk science. We read, "Interestingly, Britton and Bootzin demonstrated that NDE experiencers tend to have more temporal lobe epileptiform EEG activity and more temporal lobe epileptic symptoms than matched controls who never had an NDE." A look at the paper shows a paper behind a paywall, one that reports in its abstract no study group size. A very good rule of thumb regarding neuroscience experimental studies is that when the abstract reports no study group size, there is a very high likelihood that the experiment used some way-too-small study group size, a size that the authors were ashamed to mention in their abstract.  There is no good evidence that those having near-death experiences have different day-to-day EEG readings than those who do not. 

More bad citations follow. We have the claim that "intracranial stimulation of the right junction seems to elicit disembodiment resembling an OBE," and a reference is given to a paper that made no such claim. We have the claim that "electrical stimulation of the left junction can trigger an own-body illusion of another person in the extrapersonal space, resembling the encounter of entities reported in NDEs." The reference given is to another paper behind a paywall, one that does not make such a claim in its abstract, but instead merely claims that such electrical stimulation of the brain caused a single subject to report seeing a figure that "closely 'shadowed' changes in the patient's body position and posture," something not reported in near-death experiences. The claims are irrelevant, because they involve artificial electrode stimulations of the brain not matching what occurs during near-death experiences.

Having given us nothing at all in the way of a neuroscientific explanation for near-death experiences, the paper authors move on to some other parts of their muddled mishmash. The next part is a section entitled "Psychological Processes." We get nothing in the way of a credible psychological explanation for near-death experiences. The authors confess that "that most people who recall NDEs have no global cognitive functioning deficits or specific pathological disorders."  We have a claim that those who have near-death experiences daydream more often. Two papers are given for this claim, but neither of the papers make such a claim. 

Referring to near-death experiences, the authors then incorrectly claim, "Some related traits, such as fantasy proneness, have also been found in the NDE population." As the reference for this claim, the paper refers us to Martial's very poorly designed paper "Fantasy proneness correlates with the intensity of near-death experience." It's a very poor piece of work for several reasons. Subjects were given something called the Creative Experiences Questionnaire. That survey is described in the paper here. It is one of surveys in the psychiatric field that seems designed to gaslight and defame people who have had normal, healthy experiences with psychic phenomenon. Among the 25 questions are questions in which people are asked whether they agree with these statements:
  • "I sometimes feel that I have had an out-of-body experience."
  • "During my life I have had intense religious experiences which influenced me in a very strong manner."
  • "I often have the experience of thinking of someone and soon afterwards that person calls or shows up."
Anyone having a near-death experience (in which out-of-body experiences are so common) would be likely to answer affirmatively to the first two of these questions. Anyone having the common experience of ESP would be likely to answer affirmatively to the last question. It is very bad circular reasoning to be including such questions in a survey given to those reporting near-death experiences, and using affirmative answers as evidence of higher "fantasy proneness." Answering affirmatively to such questions is not evidence of fantasy proneness. Neither near-death experiences nor ESP-type experiences occur through any process of fantasy. Martial's very poorly designed 2018 paper does not actually show any robust evidence that those having near-death experiences are more fantasy prone than those not reporting such experiences.  Excluding 3 of the questions, she gets an average score of  8 on this Creative Experiences Questionnaire for those having near-death experiences (Table 2); and she says that this is higher than the score of her 100 controls given the same survey. But the year 2001 paper introducing this Creative Experiences Questionnaire had given data for 332 normal subjects given the survey (not people having near-death experiences), and had reported that the average scores on the survey were 9.2 for men and 8.7 for women. So it would seem that instead of Martial's results showing greater fantasy proneness for those near-death experiences, her results actually show slightly less fantasy proneness. Very conveniently, Martial fails in the paper to make any mention of the survey data for the 332 normal subjects in the year 2001 paper, data which refutes her claim of greater fantasy proneness in those having near-death experiences. 

Near the end of the paper "A Neuroscientific Model of Near-Death Experiences" the authors claim to have a "model" of near-death experiences. They really have no such thing, because they have not addressed any of the main explanatory issues raised by such experiences. Their so-called model describes a set of events that does not match what happens physically to the body during cardiac arrest or during a near-death experience. They give the name NEPTUNE to this so-called model, with NEPTUNE standing for  Neurophysiological Evolutionary Psychological Theory Understanding Near-death Experience.  This acronym is an indication of what a mishmash mess we have. Evolution is something believed to occur over extremely long timespans such as millions of years or many thousands of years. It is nonsensical to use the term "evolutionary" to refer to brief events in a person's life. 

The paper's grand summary of the so-called "NEPTUNE model" consists of two paragraphs, both of which I quote below in italics. Here is the first paragraph:

"NEPTUNE assumes a cascade of concomitant psychological and neurophysiological processes, which might start with systemic hypotension, oxygen deprivation, elevated CO2 levels, disruption of ATP production, and a decreased pH, culminating in cerebral acidosis. Triggered by cellular energy deprivation, these intricate processes can set off a chain reaction of complex cellular responses, ultimately leading to increased neuronal excitability in cortical associative regions in the mesiotemporal lobe, occipital lobe, insular cortex and temporoparietal–occipital hot zone junction, permitting the perceptual content of the experience to become conscious. The neural mechanisms underlying NDEs tend to be similar to those underlying REM intrusions. Enhanced neuronal responsiveness, resulting in increased firing rates, ultimately leads to the massive release of neurotransmitters."

Comment: Near-death experiences typically occur during cardiac arrest, and the authors claim that "the model focuses
specifically on the prototypical scenario cardiac arrest, which seems to
be the most common triggering aetiology for NDEs."  Cardiac arrest bears no resemblance to "REM intrusions," the latter not involving the heart stopping. During cardiac arrest, there is no "Enhanced neuronal responsiveness, resulting in increased firing rates." There is exactly the opposite. EEG readings show that very quickly (within 10 to 20 seconds) after the heart stops in cardiac arrest, neuron firing rates die down to nothing, resulting in a flatlining of brain waves, something called an isoelectric state that is the exact opposite of "increased firing rates."  The scenario described in the quote above is a fantasy that is the exact opposite of what happens during cardiac arrest. We have here no "model" of what happens in cardiac arrest, but a description that is the exact opposite of what happens. It is rather like someone claiming to have a "model" of plant growth, one that claims that plants die when you water them, something that is the opposite of what is observed. When I do a Google search for "what are neuron firing rates when the brain is isoelectric," its latest AI gives this: "During an isoelectric state of the brain, which is often detected by a flatline or extremely low-amplitude EEG, the firing rates of neurons are significantly reduced and may be completely suppressed, particularly in the cortex." 

There is no sound  observational basis whatsoever for the claim that there is some "massive release of neurotransmitters."  Since the claim that such a thing happens is based on the exact-opposite-of-the-truth claim that there are "increased firing rates" in the brain during cardiac arrest, we should have no confidence in such a claim. Everything we know about the very slow synthesis and transmission of neurotransmitters in the brain argues against the possibility that there could be any such "massive release of neurotransmitters."

"In tandem with other neurochemical mechanisms, we hypothesize the following key neurochemical events in NDEs. We propose that calming effects are induced by increased 5-HT1A receptor availability, as well as by transient increases in endorphin and GABA levels, potentially leading to a feeling of deep peace, whereas vivid visual hallucinations are triggered by hyperactivation of 5-HT2A receptors and dopamine (Fig. 2). The profound feelings of hyper-reality associated with these hallucinations could be explained by increased release of dopamine specifically. Determining the precise role of glutamate in NDEs remains challenging, but we tentatively suggest that it could be involved in cognitive dissociation. Memory encoding of this phenomenology would be promoted by release of noradrenaline, acetylcholine and glutamate, triggered by the stressful or life-threatening situation, to enhance coping. Individual predisposition to dissociation might facilitate this neurophysiological cascade, and the dissociation process can be seen as a defence mechanism to cope with the stressful or life-threatening situation, consistent with an evolutionary role."

Comment: There seems to be nothing of any credibility or substance here. There is no robust evidence that endorphin levels or GABA levels increase very strongly in humans during cardiac arrest. Because the brain electrically shuts down very quickly during cardiac arrest (within 10 or 20 seconds after the heart stops), it cannot be that during such a time " vivid visual hallucinations are triggered by hyperactivation of 5-HT2A receptors and dopamine," and dopamine is not a cause of visual hallucinations.  Contrary to a "hyperactivation" of any part of the brain during cardiac arrest, there is the exact opposite: an electrical shutting down of the brain which would make impossible any such thing as brain-caused hallucinations.  There is no robust evidence of greatly increased dopamine levels in humans during cardiac arrest or near-death experiences, and it is not true that some surge in dopamine will produce a visual hallucination. No one has ever done an experiment in which injecting or infusing someone with dopamine produced a visual hallucination. In 1952 they did do an experiment in which 13 subjects were infused with 1% dopamine (causing dopamine levels very many times larger than naturally occur); and such an experiment produced no hallucinations and no mental effects. A similar infusion experiment increasing dopamine levels in humans a thousandfold is reported here; it also reports no hallucinations resulting. The comment about a defense mechanism is simply the thinnest of psychology hand-waving, using the old term "defense mechanism" that was popular with Freudian psychologists.  This is just a little psychology sprinkling, to dress up a tiny bit the physiology fantasy, which is a description that is the exact opposite of what happens in a brain during cardiac arrest. 

To clarify:
  • There is no robust evidence that serotonin very sharply increases in the human brain during cardiac arrest or near-death experiences, and if it were to increase, that would do nothing to explain near-death experiences, because serotonin is not a hallucinogen, and brains are electrically shut down during cardiac arrest. The paper here (discussed in the appendix) involved experiments that increased by very many times (between 100 times and 1000 times, in other words 10000% to 100000%)  the serotonin levels in volunteers, by infusions of serotonin. No hallucinations were reported.
  • There is no robust evidence that glutamate increases in the brain during cardiac arrest or near-death experiences, and if it were to increase, that would do nothing to explain near-death experiences, because glutamate is not a hallucinogen, and brains are electrically shut down during cardiac arrest. One paper says, "Many preclinical studies revealed decreased glutamate whole tissue content after ischemia." 
  • Because adrenaline is often injected into people undergoing cardiac arrest to try and stop such an arrest, there may be noradrenaline increases in the brain during some cardiac arrest cases and near-death experiences. But that does nothing to explain near-death experiences, because noradrenaline is not a hallucinogen, and brains are electrically shut down during cardiac arrest. 
  • There is no good evidence that acetylcholine increases in the brain during cardiac arrest and near-death experiences, and if it were to increase, that would do nothing to explain near-death experiences, because acetylcholine is not a hallucinogen, and brains are electrically shut down during cardiac arrest. 
  • There is no strong evidence that endorphins increases in the brain during cardiac arrest and near-death experiences, and if endorphins were to increase during such events, that would do nothing to explain near-death experiences, because endorphins are not a hallucinogen.
  • Discounting some not-very-convincing studies (with too-small study group sizes) that may suggest an increase in dopamine in two tiny regions of the brain (the striatum and the hippocampus) of rats during ischemia, there is no robust evidence that dopamine very sharply increases in the human brain during cardiac arrest and near-death experiences; and if it were to increase, that would do nothing to explain near-death experiences, because while hypothesized (without strong evidence) to be more common in some who have auditory hallucinations, dopamine is not a cause of suddenly appearing visual hallucinations, because very strong infusions of dopamine in humans do not produce any hallucinations or mental effects, and  because brains are electrically shut down during cardiac arrest. 
  • There is no robust evidence that GABA increases in the brain during cardiac arrest and near-death experiences, and if it were to increase, that would do nothing to explain near-death experiences, because GABA is not a hallucinogen, and  because brains are electrically shut down during cardiac arrest.

Given the very extreme difference between what actually happens in the brain during cardiac arrest (a very quick flatlining and a shutting-down of electrical activity) and the fictional or fantasy "hyperactivation" description of the two paragraphs quoted above, no one should be describing the NEPTUNE scenario as a model of near-death experiences, unless they use model in quotation marks as I do in my title.  You do not model something when you give a physical description of that thing radically different from the observed physical reality. 

All attempts to dismiss near-death experiences as hallucinations lack credibility for several reasons:

(1) The lack of any robust evidence that any chemical capable of  causing sudden visual hallucinations is released at the time of a cardiac arrest. 
(2) The impossibility of brain-caused hallucinations during cardiac arrest, because of the reality of the brain very quickly shutting down electrically during cardiac arrest, which should prevent any conscious experience under "brains make minds" assumptions, whether involving hallucinations or not involving hallucinations. 
(3) The very high similarity of observational reports during near-death experiences, involving a very strong recurrence and repetition of descriptions of viewing the body from about two meters away or from the ceiling, descriptions of passing through a tunnel, descriptions of encountering some mysterious numinous light, descriptions of encountering some mystical realm, descriptions of life-reviews, and descriptions of encountering dead relatives.  Hallucinations could be of millions of possible things, and we would expect hallucinations to produce random content. The very strong observation repetition in near-death experiences argues very strongly against any hallucination explanation. Similarly, if three people on my block keep reporting the appearance of a bright blue van at 9:00 PM, it is very unlikely that such reports are occurring by hallucinations, as it would be very, very unlikely that hallucinations in different people would be so similar. 
(4) The many cases in which out-of-body experiences involve an observer claiming to see something that was not observable by his body, with the observation being subsequently verified as matching physical reality. Many such cases are described in my post here

What went on in the two previous italicized paragraphs quoted above is the same type of thing that goes on again and again when neuroscientists attempt to explain things utterly beyond their understanding.  We should remember that neuroscientists have no real understanding of ordinary mental phenomena such as insight, mathematical calculation, imagination, recognition, self-hood, memory formation, idea creation,  lifelong memory persistence, empathy, or the instant recall of lots of detailed relevant information upon hearing a name or seeing a face. Neuroscientists no more understand such common phenomena than they understand uncommon phenomena such as near-death experiences. When asked to explain such common things (which are actually beyond any neural explanation), neuroscientists engage in vacuous jargon-decorated hand-waving that does not amount to any credible explanation. They typically attempt to sprinkle such vacuous attempted explanations with lots of references to different types of chemicals, to try to impress those who are easily impressed. The astute and diligent scholar of the philosophy of mind, neuroscience and psychology will look at such charades and say, "There's no there there."  

neuroscientists faking it

Appendix (which the average reader may want to skip): The 2015 paper mentioned above entitled "Asphyxia-activated corticocardiac signaling accelerates onset of cardiac arrest" claimed to use technologies called microdialysis and liquid chromatography-mass spectrometry (LC-MS). In 2015 there did not exist any technology for reliably tracking changes over a few minutes in neurotransmitters such as serotonin existing in only the tiniest trace amounts such as a  few nanomoles.  The pitfalls of this LC-MS technology are discussed in the 2012 paper here ("Pitfalls Associated with the Use of Liquid Chromatography–Tandem Mass Spectrometry in the Clinical Laboratory"), which states this:

"However, application of this technology is not automatically or necessarily translated into accurate results. Its pitfalls have to be recognized and must be addressed systematically. In particular interferences from in-source transformation of metabolites, differential matrix effects of analyte and internal standard and isobaric transitions can lead to inaccurate results of LC-MS/MS analyses."

A similar paper discusses at great length many pitfalls and ways-to-go-wrong using this method, stating "We observed cases of false-positive results with the use of liquid chromatography coupled with tandem mass spectrometry (LC-MS/MS)."  Still another paper (on page 109 of the document here) refers to an "Achilles heel" of this liquid chromatography-mass spectrometry method (LC-MS), saying the problem can lead to "gross errors" when trying to measure the levels of some chemical in a sample. The same document tells us on page 120 that "it must be emphasized that the risk of gross errors is probably higher for LC-MS/MS compared to analyses run on standard clinical chemistry analyzers." 

Mass spectrometry does not measure the levels of neurotransmitters in a sample. As a wikipedia.org article tells us, "Mass spectrometry (MS) is an analytical technique that measures the mass-to-charge ratio (m/z) of charged particles (ions)." Attempting to deduce changes in very tiny levels of a particular neurotransmitter chemical (over a time span of a few minutes) from mass spectrometry readings would involve guesswork and some complex and largely arbitrary analysis pathway that would be very hard to get right. To get reliable results, you would need at least three things:

(1) A sufficient sample size, such as 20 animals per study group, rather than the mere 7 animals used in the paper "Asphyxia-activated corticocardiac signaling accelerates onset of cardiac arrest."

(2) A blinding protocol which would make sure that each person analyzing extracted brain fluid had no idea where in a time sequence the sample corresponded to, to avoid some effect in which analyst bias helped produced higher estimations in later samples, to fit in with some desired "increase of neurotransmitters" narrative. 

(3) An adequate replication of the results by other well-designed studies using adequate sample sizes. 

Nothing of the sort occurred here. The sample size used was too small for any decent statistical power: only 7 animals. No mention is made of a blinding protocol. And the study was never replicated by additional well-designed studies. 

The paper here describes experiments in which human  subjects were infused with serotonin. The serotonin levels of the patients were increased by very many times. When I do a Google search for "Amount of serotonin in the blood moles per liter," I get an answer saying, "the normal range of serotonin in the blood, expressed in moles per liter, is approximately 0.00000028 to 0.00000114 mol/L" (moles per liter).  The paper says that it increased serotonin levels to between .0000001 and .0001 moles per liter for 22 subjects, and that two of the subjects had their serotonin levels increased to .001 moles per liter. This was an experiment that was increasing serotonin levels in humans by a factor of between 100 times and 1000 times. No hallucinations were reported. Clearly speculations that serotonin increases during cardiac arrest might cause hallucinations are as groundless as claims that dopamine increases during cardiac arrest might cause hallucinations.

The paper here ("HUMAN BEHAVIOURAL  AROUSAL INDUCED BY DOPAMINE") discusses experiments in which human subjects received dopamine infusions that increased their dopamine levels to as high as 1000 nanomoles per milliliter, which is a level more than 1000 times higher than normal. The paper fails to mention any hallucinations resulting. This is more evidence that it is senseless to try to speculate that dopamine spikes during cardiac arrest might explain near-death experiences. 

One of the worst parts of the "A Neuroscientific Model of Near-Death Experiences" paper comes in a diagram in which there is a box marked "Evolutionary advantages," and we have a reference to "enabling the individual to cope with life-threatening or painful situations." Near-death experiences do nothing to increase the likelihood of surviving a life-threatening situation.  Of course, someone undergoing cardiac arrest will not be more likely to survive if he has some mental experience of leaving his body while his heart has stopped.  And if someone is drowning or freezing to death, it will not at all increase his chance of surviving if his life flashes before his eyes, or if he sees himself floating out of his body and encountering a mystical realm or a numinous mysterious light. Far from increasing survival rates during such events, a near-death experience would be a distraction that would lessen the chance that someone would focus on what he needs to do to save himself in such a situation. So all attempts to postulate some Darwinian "survival of the fittest" explanation for near-death experiences are nonsensical. 

Postscript:  Some of my complaints were similar to those in a letter published in Nature Reviews Neurology a few days before my post was published, a letter entitled "Limitations of neurocentric models for near-death experiences." The letter is behind a paywall, but without paying I can at least read that it says this about Martial's NEPTUNE "model" of near-death experiences:

"Their model, though ambitious, omits key phenomenological features that are central to the core NDE experience [near-death experiences] and overextends certain neurochemical correlates into causal explanations. In establishing their neurocentric model, Martial et al. attempt to reframe many defining features of NDEs. NDEs characteristically involve a distinct constellation of features that sets them apart from dreams, fantasies, hallucinations or epileptic phenomena. These features include veridical out-of-body observations (often corroborated by medical personnel); transitions to ‘otherworldly realms’; panoramic life reviews (including re-experiencing past events from multiple vantage points); and encounters with deceased (but not living) relatives or ‘beings of light’. Many experiencers also undergo lifelong transformative changes in personal values and a marked loss of fear of death. Such features appear with remarkable consistency across cultures and times, and merely equating them with phenomena on the spectra of hallucinations or stress-induced fantasies misses precisely what distinguishes NDEs in terms of their specificity, coherence and intensity."

After the publication of this post on 7/15/2025 there was published (in October 2025) the paper "A Neuroscientific Model of Near-Death Experiences Reconsidered" by Bruce Greyson and Marieta Pehlivanova, which is a criticism of the Martial paper criticized in my post above. You can read the paper here. The Greyson and Pehlivanova paper mostly consists of criticisms different from those I made, which is an indication of how many are the criticisms that can be made of the Martial paper and its "NEPTUNE" model. The article here summarizes the paper.