Saturday, February 8, 2025

Neuroscience News Articles Keeps Passing Off Memory-Irrelevant Research as Findings About Memory

Neuroscientists are getting nowhere in trying to find any neural basis for human memory. Nothing could be less surprising, considering that the human brain bears not the slightest resemblance to a device for permanently storing and instantly retrieving memories. Because humans manufacture devices that are capable of permanently storing and instantly retrieving newly acquired information such as visual information, we know the kind of things that such devices require. They include things such as this:

(1) Some component for writing transient visual or auditory signals into some information storage format capable of being permanently stored. 

(2) Some component capable of permanently storing such converted data once it has been captured. 

(3) Things such as indexes, addressing or sorting that would allow a particular piece of data to be found, given only a name. 

(4) Some component capable of reading the stored data once it was found. 

Nothing like this is found anywhere in the brain. No one has any credible theory of how something you see or hear could ever be converted into neural states or synapses states where it could be permanently stored. Nothing in the brain looks like any type of component for writing information. Nothing in the brain looks like any type of component for reading information. Nothing in the brain looks like a place where human memory information could be permanently stored.  The proteins in the brain have short average lifetimes of less than two weeks. 

So what do you if you are someone trying to keep alive the unfounded notion that the human brain is the storage place of human memories? One of the things that you can do is deceive and misinform. Part of the deception that goes on is when neuroscience studies unrelated to memory are passed off as studies telling us something about a neural basis for memory. 

An example is a story promoted today by the science news page of a major news provider, where we find too many untrue "science news" headlines. The story is from the Neuroscience News web site, a frequent source of bogus untrue headlines. The bogus headline is "Brain Cells Use Muscle-Like Signals to Strengthen Learning and Memory."

In this case you can tell the headline is misleading without even reading the paper being touted. You can simply look for the old trick in which we get a conversion from a headline asserting something as matter-of-fact to an article telling us it is really only a "maybe." 

Headline: "Brain Cells Use Muscle-Like Signals to Strengthen Learning and Memory.

Article Text: "New research led by the Lippincott-Schwartz Lab shows that a network of subcellular structures similar to those responsible for propagating molecular signals that make muscles contract are also responsible for transmitting signals in the brain that may facilitate learning and memory."

We then have the "sheds light" trick. It works like this: some type of low-level research having no clear significance is discussed, and the claim is made that this "sheds light" on blah blah blah, where blah blah blah is some dogma that neuroscientists like to teach, typically a groundless dogma having no good basis in fact, and often a groundless dogma ruled out by facts about the brain that have already been discovered. 

The trick is used when the article says, "It also sheds light on the molecular mechanisms underlying synaptic plasticity – the strengthening or weakening of neuronal connections that enables learning and memory."  There is no credible theory under which learning or memory can be explained by "the strengthening or weakening of neuronal connections." The phrase "synapse strengthening" is the vague hand-waving phrase neuroscientists use when asked how memories could be stored in brains.  The theory that memories are stored by synapse strengthening is untenable for the 30 reasons discussed here. Synapses are 50 times too unstable to explain memories that can reliably persist for 60 years or more. Synapses have been well-examined by electron microscopes, and no trace of any learned information can be found there, or anywhere else in the brain. 

We can see how "there's no there there" (at least to regard to memory) by looking at the scientific paper being promoted by the Neuroscience News article, the paper here. The paper has no substantive uses of either the word "learning" or the word "memory." The paper's only use of the words "learn" or "learning" is an unsupported claim that some area is "a key area for associative learning in the fly brain." The text of the paper makes no use of the word "memory" or "memories." 

So we have a paper that is making basically no claims about learning or memory being promoted by the Neuroscience News site as if it discovered some big important thing about the brain handling memory or learning.  It's a typical type-of-event in articles classified as "neuroscience news," where it seems you are just as likely to find a big untruth as you are to find an important fact. 

anatomy of a neuroscience news story

Today on Facebook I got a link to a PR article from the Vanderbilt Brain Institute, something trying to persuade me that this institute is making some progress in doing neuroscience research on memory. T
he article has the goofy title "Learning at every level, from stumbling babies to deep-brain stimulation." Deep-brain stimulation is not learning. The article completely fails to back up the idea that this institute is making any progress in uncovering a neural explanation for learning.  The most substantive-sounding claim it makes is the very  incorrect claim, "His research has shown that intermittent electrical stimulation of the nucleus basalis of Meynert, whose neurones are a source of acetylcholine, enhances working memory in rhesus monkeys." The claim is based on a paper that used a laughably small sample size of only two monkeys, which is a very bad joke from any standpoint of reliable experimental research. 15 or 20 subjects per study group is the bare minimum for any research study of this type to be taken seriously. 

Thursday, February 6, 2025

Newspaper Accounts of Memory Marvels (Part 2)

 The credibility of claims that memory recollections come from brains is inversely proportional to the speed and capacity and reliability at which things can be memorized and things can be recalled. There are numerous signal slowing factors in the brain, such as the relatively slow speed of dendrites, and the cumulative effect of synaptic delays in which signals have to travel over relatively slow chemical synapses (by far the most common type of synapse in the brain). As explained in my post here, such physical factors should cause brain signals to move at a typical speed very many times slower than the often cited figure of 100 meters per second: a sluggish "snail's pace" speed of only about a centimeter per second (about half an inch per second).  Ordinary everyday evidence of very fast thinking and instant recall is therefore evidence against claims that memory recall occurs because of brain activity, particularly because the brain is totally lacking in the things humans add to constructed objects to allow fast recall (things such as sorting and addressing and indexes). Chemical synapses in the brain do not even reliably transmit signals. Scientific papers say that each time a signal is transmitted across a chemical synapse, it is transmitted with a reliability of 50% or less.  (A paper states, "Several recent studies have documented the unreliability of central nervous system synapses: typically, a postsynaptic response is produced less than half of the time when a presynaptic nerve impulse arrives at a synapse." Another scientific paper says, "In the cortex, individual synapses seem to be extremely unreliable: the probability of transmitter release in response to a single action potential can be as low as 0.1 or lower.")  The more evidence we have of very fast and very accurate and very capacious recall (what a computer expert might call high-speed high-throughput retrieval), the stronger is the evidence against the claim that memory recall occurs from brain activity. 

It is therefore very important to collect and study all cases of exceptional human memory performance. The more such cases we find, and the more dramatic such cases are, the stronger is the case against the claim that memory is a neural phenomenon. Or to put it another way, the credibility of claims that memory is a brain phenomenon is inversely proportional to the speed and reliability and capacity of the best cases of human mental performance.  The more cases that can be found of humans that seem to recall too quickly for a noisy address-free brain to ever do, or humans that seem to recall too well for a noisy, index-free, signal-mangling brain to ever do,  the stronger is the case that memory is not a neural phenomenon but instead a spiritual or psychic or metaphysical phenomenon.  In part 1 of this post, I gave many newspaper clips giving examples of such exceptional human memory performance. Let us now look at some more of such newspaper clips. 

Below is part of an 1886 newspaper that describes what seems like what is now called Highly Superior Autobiographical Memory (HSAM), also called hyperthymesia. 

hyperthymesia

The account can be read below:


The source of the account below is the W. D. Henkle January, 1871 article here, "Remarkable Cases of Memory," which documents the abilities of Daniel McCartney in very great detail, giving transcripts of interviews with him. I will have a post on this case in the next few months. 

On the same 1886 page shown above we can read the account below, which tells of a man with an extraordinary ability to remember architectural details. The case reminds you of the modern case of Stephen Wiltshire:

memory marvel

Later on the same page, we read of these memory marvels. The reference to "almost the whole of Horace, Virgil, Homer, Cicero and Livy" refers to a set of books with a totality of many thousands of pages. The Aeneid referred to is a book of 9883 lines. 
 
memory marvels

The reference to Porson is a reference to Richard Porson (1759 -1808). A web page says this about him:

"Their author [Porson] gives the impression of knowing every page of the Christian fathers [e.g. Augustine, Aquinas] as if they were indexed and capable of flashing up before him on a computer screen whenever needed. And in a manner of speaking they were. Anecdotes from several different sources attest to what we should nowadays call his photographic memory, and to that memory was committed not only classical and post-classical Greek and Latin literature but a wealth of English and some French literature as well, to which his own writings contain a host of often fleeting allusions."

Another web page says this about Richard Porson:

"It was here that his uncanny powers of memory came into full voice: one person heard him declaim an ode of Pindar in Greek, and then a whole act of Samuel Foote’s farce The Mayor of Garratt (1763), each without error. ...Porson could be presented briefly with a book, read a couple of pages from memory, and then do so backwards – almost without error."

We read in one of the pages cited above a reference to Giuseppe Gasparo Mezzofanti (17 September 1774 – 15 March 1849), who was famed for his ability to speak more than 30 different languages.  Of course, any such ability would require the most prodigious memory very far beyond that of the average person. 

A 1905 news article tells of a man who only developed amazing powers of memory after a severe brain injury (the man was named J. A. Bottle, or W. J. M. Bottle, but used a stage name of Datas):

better memory after brain injury

You can read the full story here:


The newspaper account here describes the same person. We read that this man widely called a "human encyclopedia" actually suffered a head injury before his stage career began:


This type of acquisition of previously absent mental powers after a traumatic injury (inexplicable under the idea that brains make minds) is sometimes called acquired savant syndrome. At the link here is an article giving another example: " At age ten, Orlando Serrell was struck on the left side of his head with a baseball; he is able to clearly remember the weather and details about his personal activities for every day since that accident (Hughes 2010, 149)." 

A 1913 newspaper article tells us of a case of a man with photographic memory:

photographic memory

You can read the account here:


The same article makes the statements below. We have a reference to "the whole of Tacitus," which means The Annals consisting of more than 500 pages each having about 400 words each, and also additional works consisting of hundreds of other pages. The reference to the Metaphysics of Aristotle refers to a book of more than 300 pages, each with about 400 words.  The Aeneid referred to has 9883 lines. The Iliad referred to has 15,693 lines. 

memory marvel

The account below appeared in 1905:

memory prodigies

You can read the account here:

https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn94056446/1905-06-02/ed-1/seq-4/

Below is an obituary of the prodigy called Blind Tom. The reported ability to replay any composition after having heard it only once is an ability known to exist in today's world, having been demonstrated repeatedly by Derek Paravicini. 

ability to replay a song after hearing it just once

You can read the full account below:

https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn86090233/1908-07-09/ed-1/seq-8/

Thursday, January 30, 2025

This Neuroscientist Trying to Explain Minds Sounds Empty-Handed

When neuroscientists are interviewed, we never seem to get interviewers asking the kind of questions they should ask of people who claim to know very huge and grand things but who do not have observations or reasoning backing up such boasts.  Why is it that people interviewing neuroscientists always seem to pitch only the softest of softball questions? It's rather like the situation imagined below:

An example of such an interview is the recent Quanta Magazine interview  of neuroscientist Anil Seth. Seth has some book he is promoting, one apparently claiming to offer some explanation of minds. The book has the pretentious title Being You: A New Science of Consciousness. But in the interview Seth does not sound like anyone who has any credible idea of how to explain human minds. What we get is the most vacuous hand-waving, combined with circuitous not-very-relevant digressions. Seth has a chance here to persuade us that he has something like some kind of substantial idea of how to explain minds. He completely fails at such a thing, leaving us with the impression of someone empty-handed when it comes to mind explanation. 

Early in the article, Seth starts out by making a groundless triumphal boast he does nothing to substantiate. He says this: 

“I always get a little annoyed when I read people saying things like, ‘Chalmers proposed the hard problem 25 years ago’ … and then saying, 25 years later, that ‘we’ve learned nothing about this; we’re still completely in the dark, we’ve made no progress,’” said Seth. “All this is nonsense. We’ve made a huge amount of progress.”

No, neuroscientists have not done anything to credibly explain human minds; and we have no examples from Seth of progress that was made. 

We then have Seth and his interviewer engaging in the vapid word trick of consciousness shadow-speaking. The trick involves acting as if there is a mere "problem of consciousness" rather than an almost infinitely greater problem of explaining human minds. A human being is not merely "some consciousness." A human being is an enormously complex reality, and the mental reality is as complex as the physical reality.  You dehumanize and degrade human beings when you refer to their minds as mere "consciousness." The problem of human mentality is the problem of credibly explaining the thirty or forty most interesting types of human mental experiences, human mental characteristics and human mental capabilities.  Instead of just being  "some consciousness," human minds have a vast variety of mental capabilities and mental experiences such as these:

  • imagination
  • self-hood
  • abstract idea creation
  • appreciation
  • memory formation
  • moral thinking and moral behavior
  • instantaneous memory recall
  • instantaneous creation of permanent new memories
  • memory persistence for as long as 50 years or more
  • emotions
  • desire
  • speaking in a language
  • understanding spoken language
  • creativity
  • insight
  • beliefs
  • pleasure
  • pain
  • reading ability
  • writing ability
  • mental illness of many different types
  • ordinary awareness of surroundings
  • visual perception
  • recognition
  • planning ability
  • auditory perception
  • attention
  • fascination and interest
  • the correct recall of large bodies of sequential information (such as when someone playing Hamlet recalls all his lines correctly)
  • eyes-closed visualization
  • extrasensory perception (ESP)
  • dreaming
  • pattern recognition
  • social abilities
  • spirituality
  • philosophical reasoning
  • mathematical ability
  • volition
  • trance phenomena
  • exceptional memory such as hyperthymesia
  • extraordinary calculation abilities such as in autistic savants
  • out-of-body experiences
  • apparition sightings 

It is always a stupid trick when someone tries to reduce so complex a reality to try and make it sound like the faintest shadow of what it is, by speaking as if there is a mere "problem of consciousness," and talking as if humans are just "some consciousness" that needs to be explained.  Such a trick (which can be called consciousness shadow-speaking) is as silly as ignoring the vast complexity of the organization of the human body, and speaking as if explaining the origin of human bodies is just a task of explaining how there might occur "some carbon concentrations." 

After some dehumanizing nonsense in which Seth describes humans as machines or animals, Seth offers this utterly vacuous attempt at mind explanation:

"I eventually get to the point that consciousness is not there in spite of our nature as flesh-and-blood machines, as Descartes might have said; rather, it’s because of this nature. It is because we are flesh-and-blood living machines that our experiences of the world and of 'self' arise."

Nothing of any substance is said here, and we have three clues that the speaker has gone way, way wrong. The first is the dehumanizing nonsense of referring to humans as machines. The second is the denialist nonsense of referring to the human self in quotation marks, as if Seth does not believe such a thing exists. Then there's the ridiculous idea that describing a human as a machine could somehow shed light on why humans are conscious. Machines are not conscious. 

Humans are not animals, and the habit of calling humans animals is a senseless and morally harmful speech custom of biologists, who should have classified the human species in a separate human kingdom rather than classifying the human species in an animal kingdom. Humans are not machines, and human bodies are not machines. One of the many differences between a machine and a human body is that machines do not continually replace their constituent components, but human bodies and human brain continually replace their protein parts. I can understand why Seth would be inclined to forget about human brains constantly replacing their protein parts, because it is one of many facts that discredit the claims of people such as Seth that the brain is the storage place of memories.  The average lifetime of brain proteins is roughly 1000 times shorter than the maximum length of time that humans can remember things (more than 50 years).  You wouldn't remember anything more than a few weeks if your memories were stored in your brain. 

Next in the Quanta Magazine interview we have a mention of IIT theory (integrated information theory), and Seth says that he finds "bits of IIT promising, but not others." He says, "The parts of IIT that I find less promising are where it claims that integrated information actually is consciousness." Seth wastes several paragraphs  of his interview talking about some IIT theory that he does not endorse, so that part of the interview does nothing to help Seth give the reader the impression that he has any explanation for human minds. 

We then have Seth talking for three paragraphs about a "free energy principle."  Filled with circumlocutions, the discussion sounds like irrelevant hand-waving, and sounds like nothing bearing any relevance to an explanation of minds.  Seth then proceeds to state a false-as-false-can-be misstatement that makes him sound like a poor scholar of biology. He says, " Historically, there is a commonality between the apparent mysteries of 'life' and of 'heat,' which is that both eventually went away — but they went away in different ways."

Nothing could be more false than the claim that the mysteries of life "went away." The more scientists have learned about the vast levels of organization and the stratospheric heights of functional complexity and information-rich interdependence in living things, the greater the mysteries of life have grown. Scientists have no credible explanation for the origin of life.  Scientists have no credible explanation for the origin of the protein molecules or the cells in human bodies. Scientists cannot even explain how a human cell is able to reproduce. The progression from a speck-sized zygote to the state of vast hierarchical organization that is the human body is a miracle of organization a thousand miles over the heads of scientists. Claims that such a progression occurs by a reading of a body blueprint in DNA are false -- DNA does not have any specification of how to build a human body or any of its organs or any of its cells.  

When we come to human minds, the mysteries of life are endless. Neuroscientists lack any credible explanation for learning, the lifelong preservation of memories, the ability of humans to instantly recall, and the ability of humans to think, imagine and believe.  When neuroscientists try to give explanations for such things, they give us sound bites that are the vaguest hand-waving, sound bites such as "synapse strengthening" which cannot be the correct explanation, given how humans can form memories instantly (much faster than synapses can strengthen), and given how unstable synapses are (consisting of proteins with an average lifetime of only a few weeks or less).  

current state of developmental biology

problems scientists cannot solve
Problems a hundred miles over our heads

 Seth then proceeds to make this false-as-false-can-be claim: "The problem of life wasn’t solved; it was 'dissolved.' " No such thing occurred.  There are still innumerable gigantic unsolved and unanswered problems of biology. The more we have learned about the facts of biology and the sky-high levels of organization, fine-tuning and information-rich functional complexity everywhere in human bodies, the bigger the explanatory problems have grown. 

boasting scientist

 Seth makes a very misguided attempt to  insinuate that the problem of explaining minds may be solved like the problem of heat was solved.  In the nineteenth century scientists did not understand heat, and thought that maybe heat was some substance (called caloric) which existed more abundantly the hotter things were. Later this idea was discarded, and scientists started to understand that heat is just a measure of the speed at which molecules in some object are moving.  But there is no reason to think that such a thing has any relevance to explaining minds. Heat was always a very simple property, something that can be expressed by a single number (a temperature). But a mind is not a property. A mind is a reality of very great diverse complexity, a wealth of very different and diverse capabilities and vastly varying experiences, something vastly too complex and diverse to ever be expressed by a single number.  And heat is a physical thing, but a mind is not a physical thing. 

There's another reason why it is senseless for Seth to try to insinuate that the explanation of heat has some relevance to an explanation of minds. Heat was explained by an explanation of molecule motion, the idea that heat is really how fast molecules are moving around in a substance.  But the neurons which Seth thinks are an explanation for minds are not things in motion. Neurons are attached to dendrites in a way that makes each neuron as immobile as a tree. 

Then we have this little bit of hand-waving vacuity from Seth:

"Here, it’s going to be a case of saying consciousness is not this one big, scary mystery, for which we need to find a humdinger eureka moment of a solution. Rather, being conscious, much like being alive, has many different properties that will express in different ways among different people, among different species, among different systems. And by accounting for each of these properties in terms of things happening in brains and bodies, the mystery of consciousness may dissolve too."

There's no explanation there, just a promissory note that has no credibility, combined with misleading language about properties. Brains have been analyzed to death, and brain tissue has been exhaustively examined with the most powerful microscopes capable of photographing the tiniest brain structures. But no one has found in brains anything that can explain the capabilities of minds. There's no reason to think that further analysis of brains will do anything to explain minds. Also, a human mind is not some mere set of properties, but something enormously more than that. The human mind is largely an enormously impressive set of capabilities and experiences. You can't explain capabilities and experiences by merely explaining properties. A property is some simple aspect of a physical thing that can be expressed with a single number, something like height, mass, width, depth or volume.  There is no possible set of property explanations that can add up to be an explanation of a human mind, or even a tenth of an explanation of a human mind. 

Earlier in the interview Seth has made this gigantically misleading statement: " Life is a constellation concept — a cluster of related properties that come together in different ways in different organisms." No, physically speaking, a human body is something enormously more than some mere "cluster of related properties." A human body is state of enormously organized matter, purposefully arranged in an accidentally unachievable manner to perform enormously complex and hard-to-achieve functions such as respiration, blood circulation, locomotion, visual perception and digestion. Depicting a human body as a "cluster of related properties" is as misleading as depicting an aircraft carrier as a "cluster of related properties." 

reductionist nonsense

The interviewer asks about Seth's goofy claim that perception is a "controlled hallucination" and Seth wanders in circles for four paragraphs without ever justifying this bizarre phrase.  The interview then ends with Seth addressing questions about whether machines will ever be conscious, but not in any way that persuades us that he has any explanation for human minds. 

The interview leaves us with the impression that neuroscientist Anil Seth is quite empty-handed in regard to explaining minds. Seth went  round and round  in circles, engaging in the most vacuous circumlocutions. Nothing that he has said gives us any good reason for suspecting that he has any real understanding of how minds arise or how humans have the mental capabilities that they have. Seth's interview reminds me of what a dead end is the brain explanation for human minds. 

You won't get anything any better if you read the prologue of Seth's new book, along with about 25 pages of the book, available on Google Books using the link here. In those pages, Seth sounds every bit as empty-handed as a mind explainer as he does in the Quanta Magazine interview, and seems to tell us nothing of any value in explaining human minds or human mental phenomena. He nonsensically promises on pages 7 to 8 that by the end of the book you'll understand your consciousness is a "controlled hallucination."  That's a very silly thing to say, given that hallucinations are sensory experiences of things that are not really there, and that our normal conscious experience is of seeing things that are there. 

It seems there is also basically "no there there" in Seth's 25-page paper "Being a beast machine: the somatic basis of selfhood." It seems like a vacuous empty-handed running-around-in-circles mess of doubletalk, gobbledygook and jargon. In the abstract Seth says "we describe embodied selfhood in terms of ‘instrumental interoceptive inference,' " an utterance that makes no sense given that 99% of the time you are a self, you are not making any inferences. Inference is a relatively rare activity of a human mind. Things are not at all clarified when Seth later tells us that "instrumental interoceptive (active) inference involves descending interoceptive predictions being transcribed into physiological homeostasis by engaging autonomic reflex arcs." The lack of a "somatic basis of selfhood" is shown by out-of-body experiences (experienced by a significant fraction of the population) in which human selves vividly observe their bodies from outside of their bodies, such as two meters away, something that would never occur if your body was the basis of your self. 

The paper's claim that "the brain embodies and deploys a generative model which encodes prior beliefs" is without any foundation in neuroscience observations. No one has ever found any evidence of models or beliefs stored in a brain, and  no one has any detailed credible theory of how a belief could ever be stored or encoded in a brain or maintained for decades in a brain that undergoes such very high molecular turnover and synaptic turnover. The observational neuroscience here is so nonexistent that while scientists have a word ("engram") for the unwarranted speculative idea of memories stored in brains, neuroscientists do not even have a word meaning a place where a brain stores a belief. 

Part of what's going on is that Seth seems to be using the illegitimate trick of describing a self that has sensory experiences, and then trying to suggest that such sensory experiences explain a self. The fallacy is that self-hood occurs just fine without such sensory experiences. People my age often lie awake in bed at night for an hour or more, in silent darkness, with only negligible sensory experiences. During such an hour my self-hood is still going full blast, as I think, remember, plan and engage in self-evaluation, insight and introspection. Sensory experiences are things that occur to selves, but not any explanation for self-hood itself. Self-hood is something we should never expect to occur from brains. There is no reason why chemical or electrical activity from a set of billions of neurons connected by unreliably transmitting synapses would ever give rise to a unified sense of self, just as there is no reason why 10 million named Smith scattered around the world would ever have a unified identify as a single Smith presence in the world. 

standard explanations of neuroscientists


 In the Quanta Magazine interview Seth suggested that the topic of heat may have some relevance in explaining minds. There is actually a way that a discussion of heat and sunlight can give you a good hint about explaining minds, but it is a way that is completely different from anything Seth mentioned. The way I refer to was  described in my 2020 post "Your Physical Structure Did Not Arise Bottom-Up, So Why Think Your Mind Did?" Here is how I used a discussion of heat and sunlight to try to point the reader in the right direction on the topic of explaining minds:

"To gain some insight on how we have been conditioned or brainwashed to favor a bad type of explanation for our physical structure and minds, let us consider a hypothetical planet rather different from our own: a planet in which the atmosphere is much thicker, and always filled with clouds that block the sun.  
Let's give a name to this perpetually cloudy planet in another solar system, and call this imaginary entity planet Evercloudy.  Let's imagine that the clouds are so thick on planet Evercloudy that its inhabitants have never seen their sun.  The scientists on this planet might ponder two basic questions:

(1) What causes daylight on planet Evercloudy?
(2) How is it that planet Evercloudy stays warm enough for life to exist?

Having no knowledge of their sun, the correct top-down explanation for these phenomena, the scientists on planet Evercloudy would probably come up with very wrong answers. They would probably speculate that daylight and planetary warmth are bottom-up effects.  They might spin all kinds of speculations such as hypothesizing that daylight comes from photon emissions of rocks and dirt, and that their planet was warm because of heat bubbling up from the hot center of their planet.  By issuing such unjustified speculations, such scientists would be like the scientists on our planet who wrongly think that life and mind can be explained as bottom-up effects bubbling up from molecules. 

Facts on planet Evercloudy would present very strong reasons for rejecting such attempts to explain daylight and warm temperatures on planet Evercloudy as bottom-up effects. For one thing, there would be the fact of nightfall, which could not easily be reconciled with any such explanations. Then there would be the fact that the dirt and rocks at the feet below the scientists of Evercloudy would be cold, not warm as would be true if such a bottom-up theory of daylight and planetary warmth were correct.  But we can easily believe that the scientists on planet Evercloudy would just ignore such facts, just as scientists on our planet ignore a huge number of facts arguing against their claims of a bottom-up explanation for life and mind (facts such as the fact that people still think well when you remove half of their brains in hemispherectomy operations, the fact that the proteins in synapses have very short lifetimes, and the fact that the human body contains no blueprint or recipe for making a human, DNA being no such thing). 

We can imagine someone trying to tell the truth to the scientists on planet Evercloudy:

Contrarian: 'You have got it very wrong. The daylight on our planet and the warmth on our planet are not at all bottom-up effects bubbling up from under our feet.  Daylight and warmth on our planet can only be top-down effects, coming from some mysterious unseen reality beyond the matter of our planet.'
Evercloudy scientist:  'Nonsense! A good scientist never postulates things beyond the clouds. Such metaphysical ideas are the realm of religion, not science. We can never observe what is beyond the clouds.'

Just as the phenomena of daylight and planetary warmth on planet Evercloudy could never credibly be explained as bottom-up effects, but could only be credibly explained as top-down effects coming from some mysterious reality unknown to the scientists of Evercloudy, the phenomena of life and mind on planet Earth can never be credibly explained as bottom-up effects coming from mere molecules, but may be credibly explained as top-down effects coming from some mysterious unknown reality that is the ultimate source of life and mind." 

top-down explanation of mind

Brains do basically nothing to explain minds and memory. But by very deeply studying the facts of neuroscience (not to be confused with the opinions of neuroscientists), particularly the many physical shortfalls of all brains, while simultaneously making a deep study of all human mental capabilities and every type of human mental experience (commonplace and spooky), you can gain some insights that can lead you in the right direction. If you combine such studies with a very deep study of why human bodies cannot be explained by mechanistic ideas, and how the biosphere is filled with endless wonders of fine-tuned organization and information-rich innovation that cannot be credibly explained as accidents of nature, and a deep study of cosmic fine-tuning, you will as a result of such studies probably start taking  some steps in the right direction in regard to better understanding your mind.  This is all a business requiring very much deep thought and very much broad reading on a wide variety of topics, a great deal of effort. Lazy shallow language tricks such as talking about mountain-sized problems effortlessly "dissolving" won't get you anywhere, nor will lazy deceits of shadow-speaking such as calling a human "a cluster of related properties" or  just "some consciousness," nor will you get anywhere by silly slogans or stupid characterizations such as calling your day-to-day experience a hallucination or calling humans "beast machines."  

Thursday, January 23, 2025

Folly of the "Train Them Then Dissect Them" Neuroscientists

"Train Them Then Dissect Them" is a phrase we can use to describe a particular type of animal experiment often done by neuroscientists. The experiment will work like this:

(1) Some animals (typically mice) will be trained to learn something. For example, they may be trained with the Morris Water Maze test to be able to go to a submerged platform within a water-filled tank after they are placed in such a tank. Or they may be trained over several days to keep their balance on a rotating rod, using something called a rotarod. 

(2) The animals will then be killed, and their bodies dissected, with the brain cut up into slices that can be microscopically examined. 

(3) The experimenters will look for some tiny area in the brain where they can claim to see some difference between the brains of the trained animals and a control group of animals who were not trained.  All kinds of things may be checked for.

(4) The paper will make some announcement that some tiny difference was found between the trained animals and the animals in the control group.  The reported difference might be any of 1000 different things, such as the size of dendritic spines in some tiny spot or the number of dendritic spines in some other part, or the length of synapses in some spot, or the thickness of synapses in some other part. The paper will claim that evidence has been found of "learned-induced remodeling" of the brain or "learning-induced modification of the brain." Neuroscientists will boast that they found evidence of a brain storage of memories. 

There are several reasons why these type of experiments are typically very bad examples of junk science. One reason is that you can always find hundreds of tiny little differences in two randomly chosen animals of the same species, when microscopically examining their dissected brains. So merely by showing that there is some brain difference, you do nothing at all to show that such a difference arose from the training or learning that occurred in the mice.  The same difference might have existed before the learning or training occurred. 

An example of a very poor-quality paper following this "train them then dissect them" technique is the paper "Learning-induced remodeling of inhibitory synapses in the motor cortex." Glaring defects in the paper include these:

(1) The authors failed to use adequate sample sizes, with study group sizes such as only 7 mice or only 4 mice. 

(2) The paper makes no mention of using any kind of blinding protocol, something essential for a paper of this type to be taken seriously. Neither the word "blind" nor the word "blinding" appear in the paper. The tiny differences reported in structures can easily be explained as being caused by biased ratings or biased size estimations being made  by non-blinded analysts who knew which mice were trained and which mice were not trained, and who had a motivation to estimate in a particular way, so that statistical significance could be reported. The very tiny blurry barely-visible not-very-distinct hard-to-measure things being judged for size are just the type of things where bias of  motivated and non-blinded analysts could be a big factor.  

(3) There was no pre-registration of the study committing the authors to make a small number of checks for a difference of only one specific type in only one or a few exact spots. The authors were apparently free to keep checking in a hundred different ways, until some tiny difference was found somewhere. 

(5) When the trained mice were compared to untrained mice, the control group of untrained mice was way too small, consisting of only 4 mice (Figure 2B).  15 subjects per study group (including 15 controls) is the minimum for any study like this to be taken seriously, with the required subjects probably being greater.  No mention is made of a sample size calculation, which would have revealed how inadequate the study group sizes were. 

(6) We have graphs supposedly showing some tiny difference found somewhere, but from a quick peek at the graphs you won't even notice any difference. 

Even if the paper had shown a difference much larger, it would not prove anything, because anyone microscopically examining two randomly selected brains of an animal will always be able to find little differences here and there. It is never clear or probable that such differences occurred because one set of mice got training that the others did not. No good evidence of brain-stored memories is ever produced by such studies. The people who do such junk science experiments are needlessly killing mice. 

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Without a blinding protocol, it's a big joke

I can give a description of how an experiment of this type could be done so that it would meet at least some of the requirements of robust research. 

(1) There would be adequate study group sizes, such as maybe 30 mice in the group to be trained, and 30 mice in the control group. 

(2) The study would be pre-registered, so that there would be a commitment to gathering data and analyzing data in a specific, limited way. For example, the specification of the pre-registration document might state that exactly 25 microscope-readable slices would be taken from the same region of each mouse, such as the hippocampus or the motor cortex, and that the study would only analyze one parameter, such as the quantity of dendritic spines.   

(3) Each slice would be put in an envelope that had a subject number, and an indication of whether the mouse had been trained or not. 

(4) A simple computer programs would be written that would have two functions: (a) the ability to generate a 7-digit random number and the ability to store in a text file a supplied subject number, a "trained" indicator of either Y or N,  and that generated 7-digit number; (b) the ability to retrieve that subject number and its "trained" indicator when supplied the 7-digit random number. This is an elementary programming task.

(5) The program would be used to generate random numbers that would be written on envelopes.  Each envelope containing a slice of brain tissue and a subject number would be replaced with an envelope containing one of the random numbers generated by the program.

(6) You would now have a set of envelopes marked only with random 7-digit numbers that a human could not recognize. Such a set of envelopes could be shuffled, and given to microscope analysts. Such analysts would thereby be completely blind to whether the tissue slices belonged to mice that had been trained or mice that had not been trained. There would be no chance of some bias effect in which an analyst tended to analyze trained mice differently. The microscope-using analysts would look for differences in tissue, using only the limited hypothesis to be tested that was stated in the pre-registration document.  So, for example, if that document said that only the thickness of synapses would be analyzed, then only that one thing would be analyzed. 

(7) After the microscopic analysis had been completed, and an analysis report form put in each of the envelopes, the computer program could be used to retrieve the original subject numbers and training status corresponding to each envelope. So, for example, someone holding an envelope with a random number of 4477353 might type in that number to the computer program, and get a reply of "Subject #21, Trained" or "Subject #35, Not Trained," with the answer retrieved from the text file previously made by the program.  The answer could be written on each envelope. 

(8) Then the data could be tallied up to see whether there was any difference between the characteristics of the trained mice and the untrained mice.

(9) Since the experiment would strictly adhere to the protocol of the original pre-registration design document, there would be no chance that the final analysis would include fewer or more brain slices than specified in that document. 

That would be a decent design for an experiment of this type. No design like this is followed by the vast majority of these "train them then dissect them" experiments. Typically such experiments make no use of blinding at all. Any difference in the reported characteristics can be explained by either pure chance variation or bias of the microscopic data analyst, motivated to report some difference. 

A paper such as "Learning-induced remodeling of inhibitory synapses in the motor cortex" tries to suggest that learning of a motor skill is stored as changes in dendritic spines. There is a reason why such a hypothesis makes no sense. Dendritic spines are very unstable things. 

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 The 2015 paper "Impermanence of dendritic spines in live adult CA1 hippocampus" states the following, describing a 100% turnover of dendritic spines within six weeks:

"Mathematical modeling revealed that the data best matched kinetic models with a single population of spines of mean lifetime ~1–2 weeks. This implies ~100% turnover in ~2–3 times this interval, a near full erasure of the synaptic connectivity pattern."

The paper here states, "It has been shown that in the hippocampus in vivo, within a month the rate of spine turnover approaches 100% (Attardo et al., 2015; Pfeiffer et al., 2018)." The 2020 paper here states, "Only a tiny fraction of new spines (0.04% of total spines) survive the first few weeks in synaptic circuits and are stably maintained later in life."  The author here is telling us that only 1 in 2500 dendritic spines survive more than a few weeks.  Given such an assertion, we should be very skeptical about the author's insinuation that some very tiny fraction of such spines "are stably maintained." No one has ever observed a dendritic spine lasting for years, and the observations that have been made of dendritic spines give us every reason to assume that dendritic spines do not ever last for more than a few years. Conversely, human knowledge and human motor skills can last for 50 years or more, way too long a time to be explained by changes in dendritic spines or synapses, both of which change too much and too frequently to be a stable storage place for human memories. 

The failure of neuroscientists to listen to what dendritic spines are telling us is epitomized by a 2015 review article on dendritic spines, which states, "It is also known that thick spines may persist for a months [sic], while thin spines are very transient, which indicate that perhaps thick spines are more responsible for development and maintenance of long-term memory."  It is as if the writers had forgotten the fact that humans can remember very well  memories that last for 50 years, a length of time a hundred times longer than "months." 

A 2019 paper documents a 16-day examination of synapses, finding "the dataset contained n = 320 stable synapses, n = 163 eliminated synapses and n = 134 formed synapses."  That's about a 33% disappearance rate over a course of 16 days. The same paper refers to another paper that "reported rates of [dendritic] spine eliminations in the order of 40% over an observation period of 4 days." A paper studying the lifetimes of dendritic spines in the cortex states, "Under our experimental conditions, most spines that appear survive for at most a few days. Spines that appear and persist are rare."

The 2023 paper here gives the graph below showing the decay rate of the volume of dendritic spines. It is obvious from the graph that they do not last for years, and mostly do not even last for six months. 


Page 278 of the same paper says, "Two-photon imaging in the Gan and Svoboda labs revealed that spines can be stable over extended periods of time in vivo but also display genesis (generation) and elimination (pruning) at a frequency of 1–4% per week." Something vanishing at a rate of 2% per week will be gone within a year. Discussing the motor cortex, the paper here says, "We found that 3.5% ± 1.2% of spines were eliminated and 4.3% ± 1.3% were formed in motor cortex over 2 weeks (Figures 3J, 3K, and 3O; 224 spines, 2 animals)." An elimination rate of 3.5% over two weeks would result in 90% elimination over a length of one year. 

The 2022 paper "Stability and dynamics of dendritic spines in macaque prefrontal cortex" studied  how long  dendritic spines last in a type of monkey. It says, "We found that newly formed spines were more susceptible to elimination, with only 40% persisting over a period of months." The same study found that "the percentage of elimination for pre-existing spines over 7 days was only 6% on average," which is a rate that would cause complete disappearance of pre-existing dendritic spines within a year. Dealing with a type of monkey, the 2015 paper "In Vivo Two-Photon Imaging of Dendritic Spines in Marmoset Neocortex" tells us that "The loss or gain rate at the 1 d  [one day] interval observed in this study was similar to those in previous studies of layer 5 neurons of the somatosensory cortex of transgenic mice (12% in 3 d [ 3 days] for both loss and gain; Kim
and Nabekura, 2011) and layer 2/3 neurons of ferret V1 by the virus vector method (4% in 1 d [ 1 day] for both loss and gain; Yu et al., 2011)."  The reported loss of dendritic spines is a rate that would cause 100% loss within a year. 

Most synapses are attached to dendritic spines, so all of these findings about the instability and short lifetimes of dendritic spines are also findings about the instability and short lifetimes of synapses. Both synapses and dendritic spines are way, way too unstable to be a credible storage place for human memories that can last for decades. There is no place in the brain that can be reasonably postulated as a storage place allowing memories to persist for decades. 

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